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With Jessica Lee and John Tarleton (November 2008)  
"Obama has inspired a “hope” and energy among millions of people that has not been seen in decades. Do you believe this grassroots activity is actually a sign of a growing social movement? Have grassroots movements centered around electoral processes resulted in large-scale change in the past?"

"The new energy and enthusiasm have the potential of a new movement, but if they stop on Election Day that will not be enough. Too often the diversion of energy into electoral campaigns saps the movement’s energy. This happened in 1896 when the Populist movement supported the Democratic candidate, William Jennings Bryan, and when he lost, the movement fell apart. Even if he had won, the movement would have had to sustain its momentum for a Bryan administration to bring about change."

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With the Boulder Weekly (October 2008)  
"You have been a witness to so many American historical and social movements. In what ways does the current climate compare with former social movements?"

"I suppose it’s different in the sense that the control of the media is greater and more threatening today than it was in the 1960s, but the media have always been on the side of the establishment. There are things today that make it more difficult than in other social movements, but on the other hand, the elements are there for a new social movement. By the elements being there, I mean the growing, growing dissatisfaction in the country — not yet organized, but there. It’s a reservoir of anger, of indignation against the war, against the Bush administration, against the economic system. So there’s this reservoir of energy and anger that hasn’t been organized and hasn’t been pushed into a force that can bring about change. But the potential is there."

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With Al-Jazeera (September 2008)  
"Is there any hope the US will change its approach to the rest of the world?"

"If there is any hope, the hope lies in the American people.

"[It] lies in American people becoming resentful enough and indignant enough over what has happened to their country, over the loss of dignity in the world, over the starving of human resources in the United States, the starving of education and health, the takeover of the political mechanism by corporate power and the result this has on the everyday lives of the American people."

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With Rob Kall (August 2008)  
"Do you have any advice for Obama?"

"Yes. I have advice for Obama. You want to win? - Speak boldly to the American people, the American people want to get out of Iraq. Speak boldly and say, "I'm going to withdraw from Iraq as fast as ships and planes can carry them," and I think that Obama will have a much better chance of winning the election because he will be speaking to the hearts of the American people, who really are sick of the war. And instead, he gives us these half-baked solutions about "I will withdraw in 16 months and will send some troops to Afghanistan and keep some troops in Iraq for security purposes.

"Now that's - you know - that's not what the American people want. And if he thinks he will win more votes by being moderate and centrist, I think he's wrong. So my advice to Obama, not just from the standpoint of being right, but even from the standpoint of being pragmatic and winning, is be bold - be bold on the war - be bold on having a single payer, government financed health system. Be bold on ending our position as a militarist nation. Obama is calling for a strong military - big military - he should stop doing that! "

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With Gabriel Matthew Schivone (August 2008)  
"Why do you think that the possibility of abolishing war is so difficult for people to understand?"

"Well, one reason it is so difficult is that there's a tendency to believe that what has happened in the past must inevitably continue to happen in the present and future. In other words, since the history of humankind, there's been a history of repeated wars, almost continuous warfare. It's very hard for people to accept the fact that this might come to an end. Indeed, Tuberculosis was a scourge all through the history of humankind and it was hard for people to accept the fact that it actually might be done away with. The history of warfare likewise has made it difficult for people to accept the fact that there could be a break with history and war could be abolished. That's one reason.

"Another reason is that there are certain wars that have been imbued with a grandeur and nobility, that makes people think that war can be useful, important, even necessary for valid human purposes. I'm speaking particularly about World War II.

"After all the disillusionment that followed World War I, World War II made war acceptable again because it was a war against this great evil—fascism. And it is still today considered "the good war." It is still today presented as the example of "the just war." And while I seriously question this characterization of World War II, there is no doubt that its reputation has imbedded in people's minds the idea that it is possible to have a "good war", a "just war." I think that is a great obstacle to people accepting the idea of the abolition of war."

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With Ziga Vodovnik (May 2008)  
"Do you think that a change can be achieved through institutionalized party politics, or only through alternative means – with disobedience, building parallel frameworks, establishing alternative media, etc?"

"If you work through the existing structures you are going to be corrupted. By working through political system that poisons the atmosphere, even the progressive organizations, you can see it even now in the US, where people on the 'Left' are all caught in the electoral campaign and get into fierce arguments about should we support this third party candidate or that third party candidate. This is a sort of little piece of evidence that suggests that when you get into working through electoral politics you begin to corrupt your ideals. So I think a way to behave is to think not in terms of representative government, not in terms of voting, not in terms of electoral politics, but thinking in terms of organizing social movements, organizing in the work place, organizing in the neighborhood, organizing collectives that can become strong enough to eventually take over – first to become strong enough to resist what has been done to them by authority, and second, later, to become strong enough to actually take over the institutions."

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With Wajahat Ali (April 2008)  
"Will anything change in regards to US foreign policy in the Middle East, specifically on Palestine and Israel, if the Democratic Party wins in 2008?"

"The Democratic candidates, Clinton and Obama, have not shown any sign of a fundamental change in the policy of support of Israel. They have not shown sympathy for the plight of the Palestinian people. Obama has occasionally referred to the situation of the Palestinians but as the campaign has gone on, he seems reluctant to bring this up, and instead emphasizes his support of Israel.

"So, a change in policy will require more pressure from other countries and more education of the American people, who at this point know very little about what has been happening to the Palestinian people. The American people are naturally sympathetic to those they see as oppressed, but they get very little information from political leaders or the media, which would give them a realistic picture of the suffering of Palestinians under the Occupation."

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More...
With CubaNow.net (March 2005)
With Amnesty International's Fourth R magazine (January 2005)
With the Boston Globe (November 2004)
With David Barsamian, in the International Socialist Review (July 2004)
With TomPaine.com (May 2004)
With La Habana (May 2004)
With American Amnesia (February 2004)
With TomPaine.com (December 2003)
With Resonance Mag (November 2003)
With SJU Humanities Review (March 2003)
With Perspectives on Anarchist Theory (Spring 2003)
With Bill Moyers / PBS (January 2003)
With David Barsamian, in Z Magazine (November 2002)
With A True Word (October 2002)
With TomPaine.com (July 2002)
With the Institute of International Studies, UC Berkeley (April 2001)
With IdentityTheory.com (2001)
With Perspective (March 1999)
With Revolutionary Worker (December 1998)
With David Barsamian, on Alternative Radio (November 1992)
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